Nino VS Matsujun

[aide]

I was talking with honeycorrupts the other day about who had done more dramas, Nino or Matsujun?  So I went and found it.  Compiled from J-web, the "official" record of their works.  I translated some of the longer titles into English.  This is the complete list of dramas and movies up until the end of 2008 as of right now.  They might spring something on us later. Edit: Now with stageplays!

MATSUJUN
2008 - (M) The Last Princess*, (M) Hana Yori Dango Final, Myuu no Anyo Papa ni Ageru*
2007 - Hana Yori Dango Returns, (M) Boku ha Imouto ni Koi wo Suru*, (M) Kiiroi Namida, Bambino*,
2006 - Imakiyo-san*, (S) Byakuya no Valkyrie*
2005 - (M) Tokyo Tower, Hana Yori Dango, Proposal: The Happiest Words in the World 「Episode 1 : Fireman's Love」*, (S) East of Eden*
2004 - (M) Pikanchi Double, (S) West Side Story
2003 - Yoiko no Mikata (guest), Gokusen Graudation SP, Kimi wa Petto
2002 - (M) Pikanchi, Gokusen, Gokusen SP
2001 - Kinda Ichi Shounen no Jikenbo*, Mukai Arato's Animal Diary ~Pet Roshinante's Calamity~
2000 - Worst Date in History 「the 2nd Date: Poor Handsome Boy vs Rich Princess」*
1999 - V no Arashi, Hot-blooded Love Road Episode 2 「case2: A-type Leo BOY」, Episode 11 「case11: B-type Gemini BOY」, Scary Sunday #10 「Furugiya」*
1998 - BOYS BE…Jr. 「Climax! "I want to be in love" Syndrome」*, Hitsuyou no nai Hito, (M) Shinjuku Shounen Tanteidan
1997 - Insurance Investigator Shigarami Taro's Casebook: Murder Case, Mou Hitotsu no Shinzou, Bokura no Yuuki  Miman Toshi, (S) Stand By Me, (S) Johnny's Fantasy KYO TO KYO All Johnny's Jr. Show
1996 -

NINO
2008 - Maou (guest), Ryuusei no Kizuna*
2007 - Haikei Chichiue-sama*, (M) Kiiroi Namida*, Yamada Tarou Monogatari*, Marathon*
2006 - Sukoshi wa, Ongaeshi ga dekita kana*, (M) Letters from Iwojima, (M) Tekkon Kin Kuriito (voice)*,
2005 - Yasashii Jikan, (S) Riyuu naki Hankou*
2004 - (M) Pikanchi Double, Minami-kun no Koibito*, (S) Shibuya kara Tooku Hanarete*
2003 - Netsuretsu teki Chuuka Hanten, (M) Ao no Honoo*, Stand Up!!*
2002 - (M) Pikanchi
2001 - Handoku
2000 - Namida wo Fuite
1999 - V no Arashi*, Hot-blooded Love Road Episode 1 「case1: O-type Sagittarius BOY」*, Abunai Houkago*, Scary Sunday #8 「Koko datta ka」*
1998 - Amagi Goe, 26 Yoru Mairi, Akimahende!
1997 - (S) Stand By Me, (S) Johnny's Fantasy KYO TO KYO,
1996 -

TOTAL
MATSUJUN: 22 dramas, 8 movies, 5 stageplays (12 leads)
NINO: 19 dramas, 6 movies, 4 stageplays (16 leads)

(M) is for movie
Bold is things they worked on together or did the same
* is a leading role (as noted by Japanese Wikipedia)

Matsujun wins in total works produced but Nino's had more leads. :D  Quality over quantity.

Comments

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

LOOOOOOOOOL.

And from 1999, Nino has not changed so at least Nino still wins in that.

[iaoiua.livejournal.com]

I always thought that Nino had more dramas! But I suppose that I was going by only what d-addicts had listed. Though I think "quality over quantity" is a bit unfair to Jun - Jun-bait and all aside, the boy does try very hard.

Anyway, just remove all manga dramas and see how many Jun has left ... hahaha x:

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

Jun is the number one in romantic dramas, at least.

[iaoiua.livejournal.com]

Which I'm not a huge fan of, to be honest x:
I'm interested in his next choice of drama or movie - move on, Doumyouji. Nino, I feel, has a broader range, which I prefer to Jun's - it's no surprise that Jun-bait exists when he is so typically cast as cool or princely types d:

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

Well the drama for 24, was at least serious. I haven't seen it yet, but tragic-ness of it beats the romance, right? ..... he gets the strength to walk again because of his family ... but he's not a prince charming like you said.

That's what I told Maiaide, since he is #1 for a lot of the fangirls, he has to get the roles that fit him better. Nino has a better chance of choosing different characters. He went from teenage pervert to a soldier to adorable older brother.

I'll admit I was Jun-baited, but he quickly went down to #5 after I learned about the other guys.

[iaoiua.livejournal.com]

I think that happens with many fans who aren't simply "superficial" fangirls of Arashi, i.e. Jun-baited fans and nothing more. Au contraire, I love all of them near equally, but there's a soft spot in my heart for Jun, because sometimes I feel a bit "defensive" about him.

In contrast to his princely characters, Jun comes across as a rather difficult person himself. He's not naturally talented like Ohno or Nino (different talents, but both naturally so), intelligent and affable like Sho, or even baka-love and affable like Aiba. He's Jun, obsessive-compulsive Jun, slightly-anti-social Jun, very-particular-about-everything-in-his-life Jun - if he didn't have his looks or his princely characters, frankly he would probably lose most of his fans (or never have them in the first place). But, I take to heart that the other members always say that he cares so much about Arashi, and how deeply he considers a question and then answers. In a way, it's because he's like me (at least, what I can make of his private person from his public one) that he has a special place in the Arashi corner of my heart. It broke my heart when I came across a concert report from the summer, in which Arashi fans were quiet when asked about watching The Last Princess, but were so excited about HYD Final. I'm not a fan of Jun because of Doumyouji or Sawada Shin - I'm a fan because he is a peculiar and not entirely likable personality, but a thorough and meaningful one.

Anyway, all this is towards the fact that everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but I will contend with mine :). (I babble.)

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

I think many fans were maybe shocked at how dirty Jun was on Last Princess. I'm kidding!! I'm actually excited to watch Last Princess whenever it will be on DVD. I think it's mostly because HYD has been going on for some years, that everyone has so hyped up for the movie version and to also finally get a finale in the drama.

He's been in the entertainment business, since he was what 13? 14? If you're thrown into the spotlight at that young of age, you would grow up with some extreme qualities. Every quality that you mentioned of Jun, I love. It makes him more human than the rest of the guys, he's not a "perfect idol". I'm not saying that I dislike him more than the other guys, nor did my love for him go down, it's just that personality wise it was easier to admire the other guys more. Am I contradicting myself here?

For Jun loving Arashi as much as he does, I think without Arashi he wouldn't be able to do all the things he's done without that support and vice-versa. Isn't it always mentioned that he's always taking care of everyone, and that he has a hidden kindness inside of him.

I'm not really good with words like Heather or yourself, so sorry if there are any misunderstandings. ( Babble is good, babble on!)

To each their own I've always said. I'm not contradicting anything you said. The Arashi fandom is all about the love and sparkles . see?~ ;D

[iaoiua.livejournal.com]

It's the Jun homer rising out from me :). Not to worry, there's no misunderstandings, I think. My only point is that it can almost be considered trendy to be Jun-baited and then drive the point that he is no longer #1 to the bone. By golly, you love the guy, and then throw him to the curb! To the extent that being a Jun fan can be considered "superficial," as if you didn't know better. (I'm a bit sensitive to that myself, perhaps.) Opinions change, everyone's allowed to their favorites, but I still feel that the bottom line, and as Jun also feels, is Arashi - and I think that you agree!

I also think that personality-wise, it is easier to admire the other members :). I certainly don't hold it against the others that they are so lovable :D - I love them all so much - but there's just that bit of weirdo in me that likes Jun a bit more for being a little prickly, because again, that's also the sort of person that I am :D

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

XDDD True, very true. But no worries, I never punted Jun to the curb! I talk about him daily as much as I do the other guys and adore his LOL moments more than anything. Although I go more for the dork!Jun than the sexy!Jun.

I think got into Arashi in a different way than other people did. I did see Gokusen S1, but it wasn't until S2 that I learned about Arashi. Jin and Kame we're the ones who introduced me into JE and the rest of the groups. Then my friend got me into HYD because Oguri Shun was in it, then Matsujun and co. seriously came into my life. The Kitto Daijoubu video sealed the deal. So at first I started off knowing Jun, but not being into him since Gokusen was only my second live action and I was still pretty new to all jdramas and their actors.

It's hard to not love one member, just a tiny bit than the others in my opinion. About 3 months ago, I loved all the guys equally, but then DnA came rolling in and Aiba shot to #1. That's why they are so popular, each guy is so different there's something for everyone and their mother.

Plus I'm that type of bad fan who loves to bully on their favorite idol. Seriously, I'm open minded to everything. I would have supported Jun all the way if that scandal about Ohno had instead been about Jun. Threesomes for any JE boy, I will support because I turn everyone into a bicycle

I also like to imagine them in this type of setting . >D Just too bad I don't a single ounce of author skills anywhere inside of me. Well bad for me, good for the rest of the world I guess. Forgive if I'm too blunt or air headed.

[iaoiua.livejournal.com]

Generally I prefer dork!Arashi, as that was what set them apart from all the other boy bands of the world for me. You're right - there is one for everyone (and definitely for their mothers) - but I'm a dork, and it was the Odoroki SPs and variety shows that overwhelmed my resistance to anything JE, and thus I fell, like so many others :)

I had just exited from a kpop fandom that lasted for six years (though I always make it a point to say that I was never a DBSK or Suju fangirl - H.O.T. Forever!), and really didn't want to jump onto another bandwagon. But I had just read about half of Kimi wa Petto, needed an ending, and ended up watching the KwP drama with Jun, although I had to try twice because I was so not into Jun at that point. (Sometime around the fifth episode, I grudgingly admitted that the boy had some ridiculous! lips -_-) I had listened to one Arashi song years back around when w-inds. (whom I do love) first debuted, but thought it was horrid. However, YouTube did me in (as it usually does), and I fell in love with the We can make it! PV, variety shows, and here I am - though I'm a very passive fan who contributes absolutely nothing to the fandom community, or even participates. (Most Arashi fangirls scare me a bit, to be honest.) So not to worry! I have naught author skills as well :D

All of the boys are so wonderful, dorky, and full of passion. Their work ethic is simply amazing. I simply love all of that.

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

That's the best part of Arashi, the dorkyness. That's really what kept me in this group. Their variety shows are some of the best I've seen. I think V6 comes in second.

I spoiled myself for the last episode, my player decided to play episode 10 and not one so I saw the ending before anything. DD: I didn't realize until I took off full screen and saw the major mistake. URGH Who wouldn't want to keep Jun as a pet? I go more for the Jun of before than now. I found him cuter, like cute as a puppy.

Johnny should really thank Youtube, if it wasn't for Youtube, a lot of people would have never learned about Arashi or JE.

Agreed.

[trivialaffair.livejournal.com]

wow they've been busy!

now i'm sort of curious as to the numbers for the others (aiba and ohno need to do more dramas that's all i know!)

[maiaide.livejournal.com]

Maybe I will do that today. I need to wait for the water to boil so I can get caffinated anyway before writing mooooooar. :D

[honeycorrupts.livejournal.com]

Are you going to do it? I would like to know before I even start on it. I should have done it last night but uh... I procrastinated? hehh

[trivialaffair.livejournal.com]

ooooh writing more. yes, very good idea! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD